Illinois: A Great American Watch Since 1870 In 1879, due to financial difficulties, the company was reorganized and the name changed to the Illinois Springfield Watch Company. The counter regulator has the Ohlsen form of patent regulator, the other two have standard whiplash regulators. This number is the specific model number that will correspond to only exact matches of the watch. I have been busy with higher priority tasks and have not had time to do this. Code Year G0 1937-1939 G1 1939-1941 G2 1941-1942 G3 1942-1943 G4 1943-1944 G5 1944-1945 G6 1945-1946 G7 1946-1947 G8 1947-1948 G9 1948-1949 L0 1949-1950 L1 1950-1951 L2 1951-1952 L3 1952-1953 L4 1953-1954 Technique 2 - Serial Numbers that begin with the number 5 This technique was developed by Barry Cooper, co-author of the Style Number dating paper. Value will not be given over the phone, so don't ask. The first 2 digits of the serial number are used to look up the date in Table 2 below.
We are an independent dealer, and are not an authorized reseller of any of the items we sell. Some watches are more commonly identified by just one of these numbers, while others are referred to by all three. Pocket Watches, Antique Pocket Watches, Pocket Watch Lookup, Database, Serial Numbers, Inf. For this particular dating technique, two criteria must be met. If your case is a Wadsworth case, and you find a 5 instead of a Gx or Lx at the beginning of the serial number, then you may be able to use the Cooper tables.
Next You need to identify all of the information from the movement. So now in this example, you know you have a Waltham Riverside 18K gold hunting case pocket watch made in 1886. It takes away one ability to find the date of a vintage Gruen. Others may require a dull wide blade to pry or pop the cover. Alternatively, the case may feature a hinged front and back. An exhibition case back will be different since there is not as much space, the watch model number can sometimes stand alone. In the beginning of 2003, a few Waltham collectors, including Tom McIntyre and myself began development of the.
These can be picked up in just about any size from a site like ebay. This informative Website was constructed by Chapter 174 as an expression of their mission to foster and support horological research on pocket watches; a mission which also included seminars, Bulletin Articles and full length monographs. The model number is located between the watch lugs under the bracelet. We have another 21 pages to scan and put on-line from the first book that I did not have when we began. When reading this serial number list, you should first find out the correct size of your watch and then match the serial number with the correct year of manufacture.
Your Wadsworth Date will be later than the Introduction Date. There is some question as to whether Burlington was actually a subsidiary of Illinois. If you wanted to invest the time, you could search closed auctions and auction house catalogs to find watches showing both movement serial number and presentation engravings. I have created a workgroup forum on for the group's discussions, files, etc. The rotor is marked with the caliber. That only covers up to 7,555,000. Luckily, there are some dial markers and case features that can usually give away a Rolex model number, but some models, such as the 18k Ladies Date-just line, can be difficult to discern.
This should be a good start though! Sometimes the caliber is used instead. It depends on the brand. Another wrench spanner for you Brits in the toolbox is always welcomed as Gruen collectors need all the help they can get. I will give her it back and advise her of the options, either have it repaired properly, just use it as an ornament or put it away and maybe some day it might get fixed. The 4 digit number is very important in identifying the watch. Miller, John Williams, John W.
I am still trying to understand how the strike and chimes work, just for my own satisfaction, there is an awful lot going on there with those levers and cams. If you can narrow your watch's date down to a year or two, then you're doing great and likely know a lot more than when you started. Bearing in mind what you have both said about the worn pivots and faces of the pallet, I am not capable of doing it and I doubt the owner will spend money on it to have it repaired properly. We offer serial number lookups for manufacturers such as Elgin, Illinois, Waltham, and. I managed to clean around them a bit and drip some oil in which improved things no end. If you want to really get into the details of that data derivation then dig in! In those instances, it might be necessary to find the size of the watch and compare the case to similar models.
As with many pocket watch manufacturers, in 1902 the Howard Pocket Watch name was transferred to the Keystone Watch Case Co. Like so many of the Gruen tools, it is not perfect, has some amount of error , but it works most of the time. Howard Watch Company Production Dates by Serial Number 1858 - 2000 1868 - 65,000 1878 - 260,000 1888 - 530,000 1898 - 775,000 1859 - 2500 1869 - 70,000 1879 - 280,000 1889 - 570,000 1899 - 800,000 1860 - 3000 1870 - 73,000 1880 - 300,000 1890 - 600,000 1900 - 812,000 1861 - 30,000 1871 - 77,000 1881 - 325,000 1891 - 620,000 1901 - 825,000 1862 - 35,000 1872 - 100,000 1882 - 350,000 1892 - 640,000 1902 - 840,000 1863 - 40,000 1873 - 130,000 1883 - 374,000 1893 - 660,000 1903 - 854,000 1864 - 45,000 1874 - 175,000 1884 - 400,000 1894 - 680,000 1865 - 50,000 1875 - 200,000 1885 - 430,000 1895 - 700,000 1866 - 55,000 1876 - 220,000 1886 - 475,000 1896 - 725,000 1867 - 60,000 1877 - 240,000 1887 - 500,000 1897 - 750,000 The E. The materials can vary even with the same case back number, but the size and dimensions will be the same. Contact our site Administrator at This email address is being protected from spambots. Enter the serial number into an online Elgin serial number database to obtain an instant result that lists its year of production. Cartier , much like Jaeger LeCoultre watches, typically have a number on the case back and a unique identifier on the paperwork that will designate the model.